This is a conversation between Deacon Seraphim Rohlin and Pavel Shchelin on political theology, power, and Plutarch’s Lives. They explore how ancient biographies reveal enduring patterns of ambition, authority, and the human passions that shape political history—from Rome to the modern world. Topics include Cicero, rhetoric and power, the fall of the Roman Republic, and why the stories of ancient statesmen still help us understand today’s political landscape.

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Timestamps: 00:00 - Coming up 01:32 - Intro music 01:58 - Introduction 03:47 - The separation of religion and politics 07:44 - Current politics 09:20 - How they met 10:46 - Why Plutarch? 18:46 - If you were pointing a video camera 20:20 - Great men 24:28 - Plutarch's Lives 26:57 - Influence 28:40 - Cicero 49:18 - Digging his own grave 56:58 - Word and will 01:05:48 - Cicero's lesson for us 01:10:58 - Course info 01:16:06 - The point of studying history

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